(I read your tags) I hope you dont mind me reblogging this, If you do please just tell me and Ill delete it. And despite Hwasa's fans attempting to set the record straight through her own apologies and explanations, the hashtag continued to be used by many to troll the idol. It hurts my heart to see people bash them like that, it really does. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Whew, Im sorry for the long post haha. It also means I respond to criticism poorly. The song itself did not originally contain the word, but the lyrics Hwasa was using were taken off the Melon website, which did. As Ive said before, Im not a muslim, and I was just going off of what Id seen other muslim bloggers say. }); eventAction: 'click_ads' It really does hurt reading them, crazy to know about the double standards too :((. },false) Why was that her fault? }); Mamamoo's Hwasa has come under fire more than once after accusations of racism and cultural appropriation. They received their first music show win in 2016 with Youre The Best and have since gone on to win dozens more, ending 2019 with a combined total of 41 music show wins, making them one of the most highest winning girl groups in history. As Ive said before, I dont know everything, and I try to provide sources for what I post, but Im a bit cynical and I can sometimes put too much trust into what other people say, so please, please, please call me out if you notice me spreading misinformation (it will always be appreciated) and I will update the masterpost. Koreaboo, a digital media company, also reached out to the group because of the incident, and attempted to explain to them exactly why their video was so hurtful. And it appears they still hold her accountable for it, largely owing to past instances of appropriation, such as wearing a durag. 1 2 3 4 5 Maria29 Kpop Rookie Member Joined Dec 6, 2022 Messages 38 Location Houston Tx Credits 141 Jan 25, 2023 #81 Lose some weight, why cant you take care of yourself. True, the haters just don't know them so they judge easily. Yet we wonder why idols have to constantly showcase an "image" in order to not upset fans. They never went into these situations with the intent of hurting or offending anyone. And then later on she includes a list of problematic things that her favourite (boy) group has done and it's literally 3x as long. Posts: 337. | A Japanese Man Reacts to Duolingo Let's ask Shogo | Your. ), http://ourbridgeisforever.tumblr.com/post/117874134598/hi-i-just-wanted-to-comment-on-your-tag-about, http://ourbridgeisforever.tumblr.com/post/117835308868/ayabewakasa-one-unsubstantiated-article-that, http://ourbridgeisforever.tumblr.com/post/118060768918/about-the-issue-of-siwon-saying-no-to-the-fanboy, http://ourbridgeisforever.tumblr.com/post/119551166438/baekbitchyeol-catchmeinthedrift. 4) I included the hijab thing for Heechul because I saw muslim fans point it out and say that it made them uncomfortable. Feels bad yo. eventCategory: event.slot.getSlotElementId(), For those of you who might not know, Mamamoo is a four girl idol group who debuted under RBW (Rainbowbridge World) in June of 2014. The whole thing was carelessly done and not very thorough. 21 Jan 2023, 03:11 AM . Personally, I come from a Chinese household with really racist, sexist, misogynistic, and homophobic beliefs. its actually really frustrating when sources get deleted because then theres no definite way to tell exactly what somebody said. } Have they done offensive and hurtful things in the past? I just always feel the need to resolve something when I get into it and I could see where you were coming from (plus you made some valid criticisms) so I thought Id explain myself. I like most of the members included in that post, please dont try to make it out like I dont, because it perpetuates the idea that fans cant criticise the things they love. my bias is varied between moonbyul and solar Hip is one of my most played songs ever You must log in or register to reply here. But- and heres the but- not forgiving them is no excuse for repeated bullying, harassment, and worse. Another thing referenced against Hwasa is the occasion she dressed up as a clown. From my own judgement, the members seem like good, genuine people. eventAction: 'click_adunit' I'm pretty sure that a lot of people have heard of the blackface scandal. 21 Feb 2023, 07:29 PM. While Mamamoo being popular with the public is widely known, many are unaware of just how many actors, idols, and senior producers they have won over with their authentic shows and cheery personalities. It's really difficult to see the hate towards these girls when I see how hard they had to struggle to climb up the ladder when they came from such a small company but I do believe they'll prevail and work hard to improve themselves as they've always been doing since 2014 . And it manifested almost solely around Hwasa who since the very beginning has received the bulk of the hate. I didnt mean for this to spiral into an argument at all and I didnt post the post with malicious intent, though I know the intent doesnt matter all that much and that I did make mistakes. Her confidence has grown through the years, due in part to her role models such as Beyonce and Rihanna, with Hwasa even saying in a now viral video Soon, I found myself promising this: If I dont fit into this generations standard of beauty, then I will have to become a different standard but prejudice based off looks has always been the sore button topic for her. Above all, however, Mamamoo is a power-vocal group and strongly celebrated for it, even winning Favorite Vocal Artist at both the 2018 and 2019 MAMAs. I dont think they take care of their bodies well, Performed with Boom, while he was donning blackface, Called N from VIXX fucking trash among many other things, sneaked into a room in which girls were sleeping and touched them, I do not wish to acknowledge homosexuals, that scenario must have looked like a drug deal., Implied negative things about Goo Hara dating around a lot, If someone had to lose weight, I would tell that person to lose weight. Im not sure anyone will read this post, Im not sure if any of the people upset by my actions will read it (because I doubt they are following this blog) but I felt like I owed everybody an apology. As much as I have enjoyed running this blog, there are lots of aspects of it which have purely been a source of anxiety and distress for me. The post isnt supposed to be the be-all-and-end-all of offensive super junior. This, combined with their Immortal Song wins, truly demonstrates just how much of an impact Mamamoo has, as their reach goes far beyond just kpop. Press J to jump to the feed. I will definitely admit that it was very sloppy and not well researched. Not saying they should be excused for the things that have hurt other peoples feelings, but I dont think causing controversy or hurt would ever really be their intention for anything. People are accusing me of purposefully portraying all the members on the list as villains and not including their apologies. They debuted on June 19, 2014 with the mini album Hello . ga('ads.send', { if(document.querySelector("#ads")){ okay so before i start this list, i just wanna clarify: i am an exo stan. The next big issue made public came when Solar dressed up as a Korean beggar from Train to Busan (2016) for their next ending concert video. Someone might think its petty or ridiculous but theres no reason for people to put up with something offensive if they dont want to. Things not included arent included because they DIDNT happen, stop believing lies told by edgy kpop stans w/o any recipts https://t.co/rBMH79ZvlD, HELP i dont like hwasa but some of yall going a little to far, some of yall preach mental health but pick and choose who that applies too ngl i let out a couples laughs tho#AskHwasa pic.twitter.com/GbxXzX6Fna. A lot of my followers have been a huge help and Ive learned a lot myself. Feb 22, 2023. I love mamamoo their song i miss you is what got me into them as that song made me really sad but their songs hit different and Moonbyul is such a tomboy and i love her, I love how Moonbyul dominates this poll lmao, Moonbyul isnt even my bias anymore but I cant switch my vote so yep go dominate girl. Solar | Moonbyul | Wheein | Hwasa (Purple Backs) Solar | Moonbyul | Wheein | Hwasa (Mint Backs) CD version comes with 3 photocards. Another thing is my mental health. Mamamoo isn't problematic. This brings us now to the true reason for this article. Thats not fair to them at all and makes absolutely no sense. 2) Its a good thing that people talk about suju being problematic? okay so people seemed to find my exo masterpost pretty helpful and I'm very aware that suju aren't exactly the least offensive group around, so (since the YFIP one isn't very up-to-date) I thought I'd make a super junior masterpost since I'm a suju fan and I want to provide helpful resources for other fans . The word Hwasa has become a synonym for trash in the eyes of many K-pop fans, which in turn leads to them believing it is acceptable to beat her down as a defection of their own kpop favs. }); Having said that it was still wrong but I don't acquite it to a minstrel show or it have been in a mock manner and I am glad that they apologised and have learnt from that. but this stuff isnt discussed when it comes to suju - people take anything and make it problematic for members who havent done things like kangin, shindong, leeteuk, and yesung, and then just throw it around to defend their favorites. document.querySelector("#adunit").addEventListener('click',function(){ please read this first, honestly i will not respond to anyone who has not read this first. Now you may be wondering, this dating news had absolutely nothing to do with Mamamoo, why were Moos suddenly preparing for a new war against Hwasa hate comments? She embraces her skin and body, even though it doesn't fit neatly within traditional notions of what is considered 'ladylike' or 'beautiful' according to South Korean standards and prefers to pen songs about empowerment. One of the latest developments in recent times, that is currently drawing attention on online communities such as Nate/Pann and Twitter is the promotional period of K-Pop groups/soloists. Honestly, I would want the person that I love to be more pretty or more handsome., Culturally appropriated a Native American headdress. Ill probably check over the masterpost tomorrow and try to add more info and context and stuff. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Its easy for us to do because we arent in their position, I know we like to believe that we would be 100% perfect celebrities if we were given the chance, but we havent been in the spotlight for 10 years (Im sure I would have messed up far more than some of the members have over 10 years). We are one of the worlds fastest growing [3] }); The most ridiculous thing I have heard it that Hwasa try to be black like how by being Confident and unapologetic about her skin tone, clothing and looks cause she radiates hotness. window.googletag.cmd.push(function() { 9 Months of Service. i love exo. } Red Velvet too. Everyone is allowed to make mistakes and with those mistakes, come the opportunity to correct them. They've made mistakes in the past, but they're learning and growing through their experiences. I suffer from lots of different mental health problems (I dont want to go too into detail but I have ADHD and also struggle with BPD, bipolar + other issues) and this blog really does not help. With reference to the Baekhyun-autism-comment issue, it has been a topic of much debate as many people have said that the korean word for autistic is similar to the korean word for defeated-i want to clarify that i do not speak korean so i cannot judge this myself-and that it was just a mistranslation. So for antis to use that insecurity and exploit it daily, calling her everything from E.T. to a 'smelly homeless person' to having the figure of a brick, says everything about themselves and nothing about her. (but if you need the actual fan account to knock that off, i guess ill find someone who can give that to you. gads_event = event; Their interactions with their fans and staff members are so sweet and genuine, and they do their best to be inclusive of everyone (like Wheein taking her time to speak to a deaf fan and doing some sign language, Hwasa going on the floor to sign a fan's cast---the list goes on). its good(, When asked who their ideal types would be if the other members were girls, Chen chose Luhan and Chanyeol chose D.O and Lay then took the microphone to clarify that they were not gay by saying, A similar incident occurred at a concert(?) It genuinely makes me sad that the kpop community hasn't changed since I left it in 2014 which is why I'm so reluctant to jump back into it and only really here to support MAMAMOO. We will not waver; we will not tire; we will not falter, and we will not fail. It's just crazy how haters can twist every single thing. Our team is real men., Actually, we are all men, real men ah! hitType: 'event', Mamamoo isn't even the first K-Pop group or artist to don blackface in 2012, Big Bang's G-Dragon (who have been called the "biggest band in Asia") posted a horrific photo that many believed was. My first mistake was actually assuming that the video at the source was still there (because it had been last time I checked) and so I thought people would automatically know that he said it a long time ago judging by the video itself. There are multiple reasons but a large one being Im just not educated enough. I'm not dismissing them or overlooking them, but I know that there was no ill intent in what they did and that they're doing their best. Mamamoo is perhaps most widely-known for writing their own music, their electric stage presence, and constant ad-libs often thrown in to make each stage as unique as it can possibly be. also please read this before trying to contact me about any of this. Wore a headscarf in a similar way to a hijab in, When a male fan said Saranghae (I love you) to him, he responded by going, Made the picture of Yesung in blackface his, Def Conn was talking about a trade he did with an African American regarding some Micheal Jordan shoes in which Kyuhyun retorted, Said that Kais defining feature was that his, Then proceeded to say Taos face color is dark because its green at 23:11 of the same, Assigned gummy bears to Exo-K members and, In the same interview, Kai sort of called him out on his colorism/shadism and Chanyeol said , Used a caricature app to make the Exo members and created, When Xiumin chose him as first place after being asked which exo member hed date if he were a girl, he saidIt feels pretty good to be in first place, but it is first place from the viewpoint of a male but then said a few seconds laterThis first place feels a little its a good thing! I would think that all of their positives outweigh their negatives so I'm going to continue to be a fan of them and their musicand not care about netizen/fan hate against them. Yes I should have included more context. Mamamoo are good, genuine people. }); Im ironically bad at dealing with conflict, which might make some people question why I started this blog (it was actually an accident, long story), but Ive tried not to let it affect my running of this blog. Each controversy mamamoo has had is different from the next, yet people will hold a grudge and use any excuse to keep hating them. Most of the controveries are from a while back (solar imitating her senior, the strawberry jam song). eventAction: 'render' We all make mistakes and Mamamoo is no exception. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. eventCategory: event.slot.getSlotElementId(), If it had just been misheard or a mistranslation, why would they censor it? window.googletag.pubads().addEventListener('slotOnload', function(event) { It's harder to get exposed to these issues that we know about under their circumstances, but once Mamamoo comes across them and understand, they'll learn from it. You need to Register or Login to view the content. 1,891 Rep. 1 Year of Service. Im not trying to run away from anything, if you have issues with any of the things I say or do (because I am privileged in certain aspects) please dont feel afraid to bring them up! I can understand how a youtube translating team could mess up their translation, Ive seen it happen before, but as a person who doesnt know Korean I have to go off what Korean-speaking people tell me. I very strongly believe that people can change and one action doesnt define them for the rest of their life, and if I dont include an apology in a post, its always going to be because I didnt know they apologised. Yes I should have looked into the Siwon stuff more, because when you watch the video, you can tell he said afterwards that he was joking. when Lay said, When asked about his ideal type, said that she, He and Chen chose Kai and Tao as the members they wouldnt want to date if they were girls, when Chen was explaining why, Xiumin interrupted him and saidThey both have a similarity, theyre both tanned (, Posted a photograph of him in a face mask on Weibo and captioned it, Apparently there were some old online comments from Baekhyuns cyworld account where he called girls at his High School sluts but I cant find any screenshots, Chanyeol and Baekhyun apparently admitted to teasing the Chinese members at first for their pronunciation/korean and acted somewhat cold towards them, though I cannot find a source for this, Many people have said Chanyeol said his ideal type would have white/pale skin but I cant find a source on that so Im not sure, Some people have told me that Kris is sexist/misogynistic but I cant find anything about this online, I also vaguely remember seeing a picture of exo which one of the members wrote comments on and there was something about Kais skin being dark but I cant remember who it was (possibly Kai himself?) eventAction: 'click_image_ads' My mom would like to know" while another asked, "Is mama Africa a good name for you? Mamamoo themselves wrote: We were extremely ignorant of blackface and did not understand the implications of our actions. The company even took it down same day and cut it out so to make sure that it was offending people. I hear people say that she added it in to a song that didn't have it on purpose but that version is on Melon. Twitter for Android 1 Quote Tweet 8 Likes Who can reply? I encourage everybody to keep general discussion going, but for now, Im stepping out. It's even harder these days.. anything can be taken out of context for example, they're banning "Baby It's Cold Outside" on the radio because some people feel the lyrics suggest date rape what a load of BS. The last thing repeatedly referenced against Hwasa is the fact that she wore a durag on Queendom during Mamamoos Good Luck performance. hey uh, not a lot of people are anyway (thankfully), but Id really appreciate it if people could stop reblogging the super junior post I made, thatd be fab ty. ga('ads.send', { eventAction: 'load' They're open-minded and extremely kind people. In the boy groups section, there are fans defending them for everything and even saying things like, "Come back when ___(male idols)__ abuse people, then we'll talk about them being 'problematic'." A large section of the hate she receives is linked to the idol rarely conforming to what is typically expected of women in K-pop, particularly ones in girl groups. Mamamoo Has Been Receiving Hate Storms- And It's Only Getting Worse. omg lol at everything written under heechul. Anyway, just my thoughts. It was laughable because a writer had a compilation of problematic things that idol groups did and you can very clearly see the double-standards people have for boy groups and girl groups (even the writer herself). Comes with 1 group photocard and 2 random member photocards out of 8. I really dislike fat girls. pg.acq.push(function() { The sun will always shine for us. ", Where did you get ur African auntie outfit from?? Its blatantly homophobic and transphobic, like, there is no possible way you could deny that. But she probably could not have predicted that an #AskHwasa hashtag could have drawn out some of the worst Twitter drags in recent times. MAMAMOO's Hwasa is a cast member in the MBS reality show I live Alone (literal translation). I hope everybody has a good day/night. RBW then said they would work to educate themselves more on cultural sensitivity and the struggles that the black community and various other POC communities have undergone and continue to go through. Trust me when I say that most of the people who whine about mamamoo blackface are non-black people , I've seen a lot of black MooMoos who have forgiven them since the apology , but a lot of non black kpop fans wear it on their neck like it actually affected them in the first place , I may be the only one who thinks this way but American Kpop fans act very arrogantly when it comes to mamamoo a controversy. In this video, they wore blackface. Im honestly not trying to tell people that everybody on that list is a problematic asshole, as Ive said before, Heechul is one of my ultimate biases and I dont think hes a problematic asshole. You need to Register or Login to view the content I can definitely understand where youre coming from and why you sounded defensive. I feel like my SuJu MP wasnt anywhere near as thorough as the exo one because I have exams at the moment so I was unable to spend as much time on it, so Id really appreciate it if people sent me anything they think I missed. Ive said before that my intent is to provide information, and that should include context and possible explanations, and Im sorry it didnt. Thanks for posting this. I found out that they did blackface which is disgusting and heartbreaking cause I really liked them so I stewed on it for a few days and looked again and found that they had apologised that same day 2x and that they also apologised in person the next day concert. }); I didnt really spend a huge amount of time on that Super Junior post and I didnt properly think about the way I was phrasing things, or the information I was including. If you would not be able to handle it being done to you, dont do it to others, no matter how big or famous those other people are. Discover short videos related to mamamoo being problematic on TikTok. To discuss the bullying and harassment Mamamoo now receives daily, we must first lay out what originally brought out all the hate. Ive seen multiple times that idols should know better because they have internet access and should know why the n word is bad or why blackface is bad. As for the criticism of my post in your tags, I still feel like it was appropriate to include the Kris thing, though I understand why some people dont think its offensive/problematic. I think its kind of childish and irresponsible to exaggerate information and twist the truth just to justify your own personal dislike for a person, without regard for out it may affect them or their fans. Hwasa is an idol who isn't afraid to be herself. Ill probably look for another video of the same segment at some point but I dont have time right now. I recently saw their variety show where they traveled to Busan and talked a bit about the past and Moonbyul said something that really squeezed my heart (paraphrasing): "We're human. When I say this, the person might think, Look whos talking, but I would reply, Im a boy and youre a girl, To this, both Kim Shin Young and announcer Gu Eun Young retorted, Why does gender matter in this situation? Personally, from the time that I've been a fan, Mamamoo has usually apologized/acted contrite for any controversies that they've caused. A lot of it is about perspective, and privilege, but also some people have lower tolerance levels than other people. hitType: 'event', I dont know how familiar you are with vixx, but N is constantly put down by hisfriends about his appearance (specifically his skin color) and one of the things Kangin criticised him for was his self confidence, which honestly, was really, really rude and definitely uncalled for. okay so people seemed to find my exo masterpost pretty helpful and Im very aware that suju arent exactly the least offensive group around, so (since the YFIP one isnt very up-to-date) I thought Id make a super junior masterpost since Im a suju fan and I want to provide helpful resources for other fans. It arguably began around late 2018 Windflower era, when antis began to change Mamamoo's music video titles to racial slurs and death threats. 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